From: G Helffrich Subject: MTS I/O subsystem circa 1974 Date: July 8, 2014 10:49:29 AM EDT To: Jeff Ogden Dear Jeff - Found this in some old files. Not sure if it is of any historic interest, but represents the final configuration of the 360/67, just when I joined the Center. (Original is skewed on the page -- sorry) George From: Jeff Ogden Subject: Re: MTS I/O subsystem circa 1974 Date: July 8, 2014 12:17:18 PM EDT To: G Helffrich Cc: mts-comments, Scott Gerstenberger Cool. It may take a bit to figure out what all of those model numbers are. I never did anything with the 67 or the 370-168 that replaced it. The first system I touched with my own hands was the Amdahl 470V/6. Looks like the 67 only had two channels. I see the 2301 drums, ITEL 7330 disk drives (brand-x 3330s I'd guess), STC 3800 7 and 9-track mag tapes, two 1052 consoles (one for each CPU), some unit record equipment, and the Memorex 1270. It looks as if there is a bunch of stuff hooked up behind the 1270 and something called the DSF switch. That seems odd. Perhaps I'm reading the diagram wrong and everything is just daisy chained on the same multiplexor channels. There is more unit record equipment, PDP-8 and PDP-11 Data Concentrators, the Merit PDP-11 Communications Computer, and some 3270s. I wonder, did DSF stand for David Strong Flower? The DSF switch looks like something to allow some control units with just a single channel interface to be connected to either channel (or both?). It looks as if everything was connected to both channels. I wonder what the boxes labeled "AMS" are? Brand-X memory? I was able to de-skew the diagram a bit. -Jeff From: Gavin Eadie Subject: Re: MTS I/O subsystem circa 1974 Date: July 8, 2014 12:32:17 PM EDT To: Jeff Ogden On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Jeff Ogden wrote: I was able to de-skew the diagram a bit. .. and the resulting trembly lines, give it the appearance of the nearly forty year that have passed since it was drawn! From: Scott Gerstenberger Subject: Re: MTS I/O subsystem circa 1974 Date: July 8, 2014 1:13:29 PM EDT To: Jeff Ogden Cc: G Helffrich, mts-comments Our duplex 67 system had two 2846 channel controllers each with a 2860 selector channel and a 2870 multiplexor channel. But as I recall, it was bit more complicated than that because each 2860 had 3 selector subchannels and each 2870 had 2 selector subchannels in addition to the actual multiplexor channel. Confused yet? I think this diagram is a bit confusing in that it shows equipment attached to the 1270 which isn't really accurate. On the multiplexor channels, control units were daisy chained one after the other with channel termination connectors at the end of the chain after the last control unit. What the diagram intends to show is that the homemade DSF (as in Dave Flower) switch was cabled right after the 1270 on both 2870 multiplexor subchannels. It had nothing to do with the 1270; it was just the next device on the daisy chain. The DSF switch wasn't a control unit, it was just a passive switch. People often referred it as "the forked stick" and I think Mitch used to keep a wooden tree branch on top of it. AMS (Advanced Memory Systems) was indeed brand-x memory. It's interesting to note all the brand-x I/O gear on the 67 at the end of its life. At the beginning, it had none until the first Data Concentrator was built (much to IBM's annoyance). Scott From: G Helffrich Subject: Re: MTS I/O subsystem circa 1974 Date: July 8, 2014 2:27:02 PM EDT To: Scott Gerstenberger Cc: Jeff Ogden Dear Scott & Jeff - OK, I see, strung along after the Forked Stick, on stub A a 2501 reader and the original PDP-8 Data Concentrator. On stub B I see two more Data Concentrators (an 8E and a PDP-11, the Merit PDP-11 and the 3272 control unit. The 2822, which I didn't recognize, seems to be a paper tape reader control unit. Wow -- a /67 with a paper tape reader? I only thought DEC used those. Wonder why the unit record equipment (except the 2501) was attached to the "EXT" subchannel on the 2870? Seems to be distinct from the multiplexor and selector subchannels. I just looked at an FE document for the 2870. It suggests this might be the slower speed selector subchannel. Al Emery used to be the draughtsman for these Calcomp-plotted system configuration diagrams. He must have a complete program archive somewhere, and thus the whole chronicle of attached devices and configurations. |